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Veena and I wrote this response together and I am posting because she is making dinner.
We want to be completely clear:
1) The definition of elite in the manual was specifically chosen to categorize moves that you should not try without extensive training and physical conditioning, not to categorize people. It is a term that is perfectly acceptable and widely used in many fields.
2) We never said that blood sweat and tears were necessary to enjoy your art, merely that they were necessary to accomplish a certain level of achievement. We have been in this industry for nearly a decade and met many, many dancers and that is an absolute, incontrovertible, truth. There is no way around it. It is ABSOLUTELY not necessary to push yourself that hard to enjoy your art, just to reach a level where the ELITE moves become safe. In fact that is one of Veena’s biggest messages, “You don’t need to accomplish any level to be a successful dancer, that is not what dancing is about”
I am now locking this thread in order that there is no confusion to people who come here for clarification. I want people to understand that ELITE MOVES ARE FOR VERY ADVANCED POLERS WHO HAVE EXTENSIVE TRAINING and that is the only reason for the categorization. If you attempt elite moves without the level of training required recognize that the potential for injury becomes inordinately higher. Please, please pole carefully and enjoy your art rather than focusing purely on what moves you can do.
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Black Orchid, what outcome did you hope for when you continually insisted that we were wrong in our selection of language?
As we’ve stated in several ways earlier in the thread, whether someone can do an elite move, as defined by Veena, does not establish whether they are elite or not. By defining the move as elite Veena establishes a base line of skill and commitment you should have to attempt and properly execute the move.
Veena is in no way saying
“To be an elite pole dancer you must be able to perform this lexicon of tricks”
Instead she is saying
“To consider learning this trick it is best that you have more training and hours under your belt than the typical dancer”
Hopefully this is now clear enough.
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Black Orchid, I feel like it’s highly likely you would object to any term Veena chose for these high level moves. Are you perhaps looking for a definition that makes you feel comfortable that you can achieve these higher level moves without the blood, sweat and tears that they really require?
If it makes you feel better call the moves super-special moves, call them happy moves or call them splendiferous moves. The fact remains that Veena is concerned about the safety of her students and wants to make it absolutely positively clear that these moves require a high level of dedication in order to do them correctly and relatively safely.
When you speak of other dancers please remember social media is a two dimensional picture that is cultivated to present the image that person wants to present to the world. A dancer’s life may seem simple and fun but I assure you the reality is that while it is quite possibly fun for them they are not tweeting all the hours they spend on the pole, the weeks they spend away from their significant other, the hunger in their belly from trying to maintain weight, the injuries they suffer on a weekly basis or any of the other less than glamorous aspects of their life.
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I’m going to chime in. I think there is a DISTINCT misunderstanding of the purpose of defining elite in the Veena Method Curriculum.
It is established as part of the lexicon of the manual in order to provide a context for where groups of moves fall developmentally. It is absolutely NOT established to judge or place any dancer or group of dancers.
In order to understand more fully lets look at the definition of elite:
Elite-
– the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons.The elite are the top FEW people who have set everything aside to accomplish and refine in a way that others cannot. It’s really that simple, the best in a field don’t just win a genetic lottery they also commit 100%. The elite in any field don’t say “committing 100% sounds miserable” instead they usually put aside family, friends, health and most everything else that other people consider essential to their lives in order to live a fulfilling life.
That is elite.
By classifying moves as ELITE we can understand that they generally can only be executed properly if you have put in enough time and effort to properly strengthen and tune your dancing.
Please do not make the mistake of assuming that Veena has set out to judge or categorize any dancer, she is categorizing moves only.
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What browser and version of OS X are you using?
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Veena classifies this move as advanced. She covers everything you need as a prerequisite to accomplish it safely here https://stage.studioveena.com/lessons/view/53f77bde-0658-41de-ad03-42940a9aa0eb
In Veena’s lesson you also get a listing of all the points of contact and every motion required to get into the move.
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We recommend either the Lil Mynx or the X-Pole found at http://www.lilmynx.com and http://www.xpoleus.com respectively.
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Veena has a lesson for the Janeiro that could probably be helpful.
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We don’t currently have any plans to bring them back.
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One of the most important aspects of the pole was its finish. Lil Mynx discontinued that finish so we opted to stop selling the pole.
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Unfortunately no
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Thank-you for the suggestion.
Currently the featured lessons are selected randomly from our lesson library to give you a peak into the breadth of our library on a daily basis and give you some ideas of where you can go and what you could work on.
Pulling from our beginner intermediate and advanced sections would eliminate the other nine sections from rotation. Also since Veena spent a tremendous amount of time putting those three specific sections in progression order it removes the self-progression aspect from them.
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